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grimorieI think this post already expresses a lot of what I feel about the movie.
The thing I really love about the Animated version of the DC 'verse is it distills the best parts of the story arcs without the silliness that sometimes comes with the arcs.
The only thing I could wish for is I wish they had Barbra in the movie because she was also a victim of the Joker's mad cruelties in more ways than one.
On the other hand Dick Grayson (voiced by NPH) doing a running commentary seemed really redundant since we see what's happening on screen. (i.e. after an explosion; Nightwing: That's some explosion! -- I guess the 'Holy Smokes, Batman! It's a trap!' thing really is part of his character.)
Basically, you come away from this movie with two things: 'Oh, Jason!' feels and that Bruce is really, really fucked up by his guilt. Jason being alive doesn't lessen his greatest failure but actually gives voice to Bruce's questionable decision to let Joker live.
I mean, on a meta level, I get why Bruce would leave Joker alive because it's his code. I don't, however, understand how other people still continue to let him live.
But this is what Jason is making Bruce accountable for -- that he, Bruce, would let Joker live when he killed Jason. It doesn't make sense to Jason, because if the roles were reverse, nothing would ever stop Jason from seeking out revenge against Joker.
Of course none of Bruce's answers would ever satisfy Jason... and Jason could ask the same question to the other vigilantes operating in Gotham (maybe he did, I never really followed the series closely) but it's only Bruce he really holds accountable.
I love that the movie didn't end with an answer. It ended with the question still hanging. The same way Jason's presence casts a wide net over Bruce and hangs over him from this moment forth, the same way Bruce still keeps Jason's costume hanging even though (or because of) Jason's alive.
Before I end this post, I just I wanted to mention how much a shock to the gut the opening of the movie is? Anyone expecting this to be your ordinary Batman story is in for a shock. The opening of the movie establishes, from the first second, that this isn't Your Ordinary Batman Story. The way Joker cruelly beats Jason and at the closing when we know Bruce will never be in time to save Jason.
And Jason's eyes, the moment he realized there was a bomb in the warehouse with him... the resignation and understanding that he was done. It just hit really, really hard.
I suppose the essential thing about Bruce is how is marked not by all his victories but by all his loses too. And, the moment Jason Todd became the symbol for his greatest failure.
The thing I really love about the Animated version of the DC 'verse is it distills the best parts of the story arcs without the silliness that sometimes comes with the arcs.
The only thing I could wish for is I wish they had Barbra in the movie because she was also a victim of the Joker's mad cruelties in more ways than one.
On the other hand Dick Grayson (voiced by NPH) doing a running commentary seemed really redundant since we see what's happening on screen. (i.e. after an explosion; Nightwing: That's some explosion! -- I guess the 'Holy Smokes, Batman! It's a trap!' thing really is part of his character.)
Basically, you come away from this movie with two things: 'Oh, Jason!' feels and that Bruce is really, really fucked up by his guilt. Jason being alive doesn't lessen his greatest failure but actually gives voice to Bruce's questionable decision to let Joker live.
I mean, on a meta level, I get why Bruce would leave Joker alive because it's his code. I don't, however, understand how other people still continue to let him live.
But this is what Jason is making Bruce accountable for -- that he, Bruce, would let Joker live when he killed Jason. It doesn't make sense to Jason, because if the roles were reverse, nothing would ever stop Jason from seeking out revenge against Joker.
Of course none of Bruce's answers would ever satisfy Jason... and Jason could ask the same question to the other vigilantes operating in Gotham (maybe he did, I never really followed the series closely) but it's only Bruce he really holds accountable.
I love that the movie didn't end with an answer. It ended with the question still hanging. The same way Jason's presence casts a wide net over Bruce and hangs over him from this moment forth, the same way Bruce still keeps Jason's costume hanging even though (or because of) Jason's alive.
Before I end this post, I just I wanted to mention how much a shock to the gut the opening of the movie is? Anyone expecting this to be your ordinary Batman story is in for a shock. The opening of the movie establishes, from the first second, that this isn't Your Ordinary Batman Story. The way Joker cruelly beats Jason and at the closing when we know Bruce will never be in time to save Jason.
And Jason's eyes, the moment he realized there was a bomb in the warehouse with him... the resignation and understanding that he was done. It just hit really, really hard.
I suppose the essential thing about Bruce is how is marked not by all his victories but by all his loses too. And, the moment Jason Todd became the symbol for his greatest failure.
