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The Doctor Who showrunner wars is still in full swing despite the three Doctor Who showrunners being friends IRL, and some things they’ve done and implemented can all boil down to preference.

I wanted to weigh in with my thoughts on this.

I like some things RTD did in his time in Doctor Who, I am very grateful to him for bringing the show back from the war but I also remember slowly getting disgruntled with his writing.

He is a drama writer, and one of the best; RTD has a way of turning a phrase that just fires up the imagination like:“Skaro Degradations, the Horde of Travesties, the Nightmare Child, the Could-Have-Been-King with his army of Meanwhiles and Neverweres.”

He has also written and help re-write my favorite two-parter of Revival!Who Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit, Midnight, Turn Left, and Children of Earth. The problem is as much as he loves both camp (sometimes the results can work, sometimes it doesn’t), RTD’s cynicism does leak through.

He tried to fight against those instincts in Doctor Who but you can see the strain show as he struggled to keep that cynicism away from the show.

There’s also the part where his frequent joke targets are middle-aged women. And TBH, I was tired of Ten’s God Complex (“I am the final authority!”) and how the narrative rarely calls him out on it. Unlike Nine, he started to believe his own press and the press of other people

I wasn’t keen on the way he joked about appearances of women above thirty, and tbh, I was tired of Ten’s God Complex (“I am the final authority.”) and how the narrative refused to call him out on it.

Ten believing his own press could have been interesting if the narrative didn’t think he was right. For example, The Water of Marscould have been interesting but I thought WoM resolved Ten’s Time Lord Victorious moment far too soon and easily.

I thought they could have explored more about the ‘Time Lord Victorious’ moment for at least another episode, or have The End of Time comment on it.

Apart from series 1, all of RTD’s series finales were heart-wrenching; each finale I ended up feeling like I was going twenty rounds against a meat grinder.

It was why I loved and will continue to love series 5 and how refreshingly happy the ending was.

No one was trapped in another dimension! No one had to single-handedly stop an apocalypse and have their family enslaved, or mind-wiped.

In the scheme of things, I think in certain aspects, Moffat’s storytelling style is more in line with my tastes. The fairytale seasons. Even Twelve becomes a fairytale Doctor, and I wager that his arc in series 8 is remembering the joy and becoming the fairytale Doctor again.

Another reason why I love series 5, coming directly from Ten’s Lonely God thing, was that a lot of people called out the Doctor on their God Complex and made their self-loathing a lot more text. I also loved the fairy tale aspect of his seasons.

But like with RTD not everything Moffat’s done is my favorite, there were some stories that had missteps, and one of those missteps was Moffat trying to out clever himself. Credit to him for swinging for the fences but he also started to spread himself too thin working on two shows, and the seams showed.

One of the criticisms about Moffat’s writing is character work, and he had no interest in the Companions’ families.

I’m in the middle. I have issues but also (especially after rewatching) I was more forgiving, as an example, in the end, I didn’t care as much about the state of Amy’s parents.

No, that’s wrong, I did care.

I cared the first time I watched Angels Take Manhattan, I cared so much that when Amy and Rory disappeared I was so angry because all I could think about was Amy’s parents and Brian (Rory’s dad). I cared to the point that it was one of the reasons why I stopped watching.

On subsequent rewatches, I’ve reconciled with the idea that Companion families and family dynamics (the Companion’s parents) aren’t something Moffat was interested in. It took Chibnall to give Rory a dad (interesting that parent-child dynamic is really something Chibnall is drawn to).

Honestly, if family dynamics isn’t something he is interested in, that’s fair. Also, Amy’s parent’s weren’t a factor since series 6 and Amy’s parents might have well fallen back into the Crack for all we know.

Rewatching also helped me come to terms with some narrative choices I wasn’t fond of. Binge (re)watch tended to sand down any rough parts and I find rewatching can help me hold the shape of a story more.

Still, it took a while to realize Eleven acting big and bombastic was deliberate. Moffat needed Eleven to be big and loud, and full of himself so he can also go crashing down. It falls in line with what River describes the Doctor she knew: “Now my Doctor, I’ve seen whole armies turn and run away. And he’d just swagger off back to his Tardis and open the doors with a snap of his fingers.”

One of the things I wasn’t satisfied with Moffat’s writing (and there were plenty) was how series 6 dealt with child loss. Or, how s6 initially didn’t deal with child loss. The writing would eventually address it, and most prominently in The Wedding of River Song in a fantastically chilling scene between Amy and Kovarian.

But even then I felt it wasn’t enough. Emotional continuity during this time was very low.

This brings me to River. I loved her the moment she stepped on screen in Silence in the Library but my love for her character cooled because of series 6. My theory is Moffat wrote himself into a corner trying to out grand series 5.

For those taking notes at home, I watched Doctor Who sporadically during series 7 and then stopped watching at Angels Take Manhattan. I stopped watching until Day of the Doctor happened.

DotD reignited my love for *Doctor Who! So much so that I went back and binged series 7.

I liked s7 well enough except for how Amy and Rory left, that still sticks in my craw. I would have been okay if the Ponds left at the end of the Power of Three. Unfortunately, for Revival!Who, there’s an expectation now that Leaving Stories should be hard and tragic, and breaks your heart. I don’t always need grand leaving stories.

It was why Clara choosing not to travel with the Doctor at the end of Death in Heaven felt refreshing.

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Rosa as an episode shows exactly why diverse voices are needed and why a writer’s room type works too.

Doctor Who tackled racism before but never this sensitively, never this nuanced. Thin Ice was closest but that can only shade one aspect of it.

This episode tackled racism not only from the past but in present day too, and unfortunately, much as we love to think it, it might still be a thing in the future. The enemy wasn’t Krasko, he was a vehicle. The enemy was mindset and prejudice, the challenge was to let history happen exactly as it’s meant, despite how hard it is for people to let it.

I’ve wondered since I started watching Timeless how the Doctor would react, because the Timeless crew stumble into history and can’t stand to see terrible things happen and Rufus, rightly, challenges it and affect a change in history.

But now we know how the Doctor would react, as difficult it is to do, as heart wrenching and shamefully they feel, history must happen the way it should. It also emphasized Rosa’s agency.

She wasn’t inspired by the Doctor nor were the racist people around them affected by aliens or whatever. They were ordinary people who had prejudices and a system to enforce that.

And then the episode addressed how non-black people of color were treated too, which, I will admit surprised me because I don’t think a TV show has addressed that together with the ongoing topic. It’s like for Hollywood only one type of racism can happen at a time, but this episode showed the broader world. Shading and layering it in more. Especially when Yaz and Ryan spoke to each other and we can see the similar but different racism they still tackle on a daily basis.

I love how in the end, Rosa, as it meant to, decided to keep her sit, and it wasn’t because she was tired. The actress did such a brilliant job portraying Rosa’s steeliness under the genteel facade.

I am so, so glad for this episode and I had so much trepidation coming in too. I am so glad Malorie Blackman wrote this episode, and Mark Tonderai directed it.

Once again diverse voices and POV.

So, yeah, Chibnall isn’t perfect but at least he swings for the fences and pushes the envelope and creates pathways for people to enter the industry.

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Things I’m hoping for re: DC/WB

  • Finally get an over all creative head, I thought that was Geoff Johns but apparently its not. They need a creative head that protects the talent and movie from executive meddling. I’m not a fan of Snyder nor Whedon but Justice League (which I did enjoy) didn’t need all the tinkering from studio heads, especially the same studio heads who wanted to cut the No Man’s Land scene from Wonder Woman.

They already screwed things up with Suicide Squad and it leapt on to Justice League.

  • Keep a lid on all the rumors. I am 80% sure this is the reason for the relatively low JL ticket sales, because every news outlet, mainstream or otherwise, were rife with rumors about the production troubles of DC. I know some DCMU fans hate being compared to Marvel Studios but there is a reason why Marvel is famous about keeping secrets. They should do the same thing with DC.

When Patty Jenkins left Thor 2, there was a news release and then Marvel moved on.

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  • At this point, people have stopped caring whether Ben Affleck will still be Batman.

  • Positives, I’m looking forward to James Wan’s Aquaman, Patty Jenkins’ Wonder Woman 2, and SHAZAM.

    But I’m not looking forward to Flashpoint.


    Sorry, I just needed to rant because WB looks like such a trainwreck from all the news that keeps filtering out.

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    So, I accidentally watched Wonder Woman again because I found Collider Videos commentary video and I decided to fire-up iTunes and watch it the same time as they watch.

    And, I got caught up the same way the Collider crew got caught up. Also, this really is a movie that gets so much better on rewatch. I loved it the first time but it just keeps getting better the more I rewatch it.

    Here's the thing too-- I've watched the movie a lot, its the first time I realized that Diana lost her very beautiful shield between the moments she left Veld and when she stormed out of the castle to go back to Veld.

    The score is another thing I appreciate the more I hear it, Rupert Willams Gregson did a beautiful making a whole score for the movie, building off from Hans Zimmerman's 'Is She With You?' from BvS.

    (BTW, in Justice League I noticed they didn't use the 'Amazons of Themyscira' music in the Themyscira scenes, which... I don't even know why they're not using something that's already been made, the kind of haunting horn that builds, it could've added to the mystery and menace when the Amazons are gathered around the Mother Box.)

    One of the other things I appreciate how Patty Jenkins films this movie is how she's so good with scale. I don't know how to describe it, since BvS and Justice League also had big locations and yet I can feel the scale and depth of the places Diana visits. 

    It’s just honestly breathtaking.  text )

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    In the barren wasteland that is Person of Interest _4B _Terra Incognita is the one truly great episode from start to finish. There is nothing about it I would change and it is the last real good John character building episode.

    Also, this episode single-handedly turned the fridging of Jessica on its head*. Jessica didn’t die because of John or his decisions. Jessica died because sometimes really bad things do happen and sometimes, no one can’t prevent it. 

    It was tragic but it was also life. 

    That's good. Being missed means you meant something to people while you were here. )

    (*not in the traditional sense that is).


    I also rewatched Skip, and you know what the Harold and Root scene, I’ve come to really like it now because it was so very appropriate and fitting that in order to stop Root from killing, he had to blackmail her. 

    That’s just so amusingly appropriate!

    I wish CBS’s shooting schedule for POI did not conflict with Vikings because I wanted Frankie back in season 5. Heck, I wanted a lot of actors in season 5 but because of the schedule, it was impossible to do.

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